{"id":354,"date":"2014-02-07T00:33:44","date_gmt":"2014-02-07T05:33:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.grieve-smith.com\/blog1\/?p=354"},"modified":"2017-08-31T23:45:07","modified_gmt":"2017-09-01T03:45:07","slug":"why-i-probably-wont-take-your-survey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/2014\/02\/why-i-probably-wont-take-your-survey\/","title":{"rendered":"Why I probably won&#8217;t take your survey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wrote recently that if you want to be confident in generalizing observations from a sample to the entire population, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grieve-smith.com\/blog\/2014\/01\/estimating-universals-averages-and-percentages\/\" title=\"Estimating universals, averages and percentages\">your sample needs to be representative<\/a>.  But maybe you&#8217;re skeptical.  You might have noticed that a lot of people don&#8217;t pay much attention to representativeness, and somehow there are hardly any consequences for them.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean that there are <em>never<\/em> consequences, for them or other people.<\/p>\n<p>In the &#8220;hard sciences,&#8221; sampling can be easier.  Unless there is some major impurity, a liter of water from New York usually has the same properties as one from Buenos Aires.  If you&#8217;re worried about impurities you can distill the samples to increase the chance that they&#8217;re the same.  Similarly, the commonalities in a basalt column or a wheel often outweigh any variation.  A pigeon in New York is the same as one in London, right?  A mother in New York is the same as a mother in Buenos Aires<\/p>\n<p>Well, maybe.  As we&#8217;ve seen, a swan in New York can be very different from a swan in Sydney.  And when we get into the realm of social sciences, things get more complex and the complexity gets hard to avoid.  There are probably more differences between a mother in New York and one in Buenos Aires than for pigeons or stones or water, and the differences are more important to more people.<\/p>\n<p>This is not just speculation based on rigid rules about sampling.  As <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scientificamerican.com\/primate-diaries\/2011\/12\/07\/the-weird-evolution-of-human-psychology\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bethany Brookshire wrote<\/a> last year, psychologists are coming to realize the drawbacks of building so much of their science around WEIRD people.  And when she says WEIRD, she means WEIRD like me: White, Educated and from an Industrialized, Rich, Democratic country.  And not just any WEIRD people, but college sophomores.  Brookshire points out how much that skews the results in a particular study of virginity, but she also <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.cambridge.org\/action\/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&#038;aid=7825833\" target=\"_blank\">links to a review<\/a> by Heinrich, Heine and Norenzayan (2010) that examines several studies and concludes that &#8220;members of WEIRD societies, including young children, are among the least representative populations one could find for generalizing about humans.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I think about this whenever I get an invitation to participate in a social science study.  I get them pretty frequently, probably at least twice a week, on email lists and Twitter, and occasionally Tumblr and even Facebook.  Often they&#8217;re directly from the researchers themselves: &#8220;Native English speakers, please fill out my questionnaire on demonstratives!&#8221;  That means that they&#8217;re going primarily to a population of educated people, most of whom are white from an industrialized, rich, democratic country.<\/p>\n<p>(A quick reminder, in case you just tuned in: This applies to universal observations &#8211; percentages, averages and all or none statements.  It does not apply to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grieve-smith.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/existentials-and-universals\/\" title=\"Existentials and universals\" target=\"_blank\">existential statements<\/a>, where you simply say that you found ten people who say &#8220;less apples.&#8221;  You take those wherever you find them, as long as they&#8217;re reliable sources.)<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have a real problem with using non-representative samples for pilot studies.  You have a hunch about something, you want to see if it&#8217;s not just you before you spend a lot of time sending a survey out to people you don&#8217;t know.  I have a huge problem with it being used for anything that&#8217;s published in a peer-reviewed journal or disseminated in the mainstream media.  And yeah, that means I have a huge problem with just about any online dialect survey. <\/p>\n<p>I also don&#8217;t like the idea of students generalizing universal observations from non-representative online surveys for their term papers and master&#8217;s theses.  People learn skills by doing.  If they get practice taking representative samples, they&#8217;ll know how to do that.  If they get practice making qualitative, existential observations, they&#8217;ll be able to do those.  If they spend their time in school making unfounded generalizations from unrepresentative samples (with a bit of handwaving boilerplate, of course!), most of them will keep doing that after they graduate.<\/p>\n<p>So that&#8217;s my piece.  I&#8217;m actually going to keep relatively quiet about this because some of the people who do those studies (or their friends) might be on hiring committees, but I do want to at least register my objections here.  And if you&#8217;re wondering why I haven&#8217;t filled out your survey, or even forwarded it to all my friends, this is your answer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wrote recently that if you want to be confident in generalizing observations from a sample to the entire population, your sample needs to be representative. But maybe you&#8217;re skeptical. You might have noticed that a lot of people don&#8217;t pay much attention to representativeness, and somehow there are hardly any consequences for them. 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