{"id":11,"date":"2012-02-11T18:13:46","date_gmt":"2012-02-11T23:13:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.grieve-smith.com\/blog1\/?p=11"},"modified":"2012-02-11T18:15:01","modified_gmt":"2012-02-11T23:15:01","slug":"nonstandard-relative-clauses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/nonstandard-relative-clauses\/","title":{"rendered":"Nonstandard relative clauses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was browsing through <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Relative_clause&amp;oldid=474624105\" target=\"_blank\">the Wikipedia page on relative pronouns<\/a> and I found this table:<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>Position<\/th>\n<th>With explicit relative pronoun<\/th>\n<th>With omitted relative pronoun<\/th>\n<th>In formal English<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a title=\"Subject (grammar)\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Subject_%28grammar%29\">Subject<\/a><\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who ran away].<\/td>\n<td>?<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who ran away].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a title=\"Direct object\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Direct_object\">Direct object<\/a><\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who I saw yesterday].<\/td>\n<td>That&#8217;s the man [I saw yesterday].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [whom I saw yesterday].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a title=\"Indirect object\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Indirect_object\">Indirect object<\/a><\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who I gave the letter to].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [I gave the letter to].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [to whom I gave the letter].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a title=\"Oblique case\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oblique_case\">Oblique<\/a><\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who I was talking about].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [I was talking about].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [about whom I was talking].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a title=\"Genitive\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genitive\">Genitive<\/a><\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [whose sister I know].<\/td>\n<td>?<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [whose sister I know].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Obj of Comp<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [who I am taller than].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [I am taller than].<\/td>\n<td>That?s the man [than whom I am taller].<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>The &#8220;in formal English&#8221; column is a bit odd because it only contrasts to the &#8220;with explicit relative pronoun.&#8221;? I&#8217;m guessing the middle column is supposed to be &#8220;informal,&#8221; but it doesn&#8217;t include nonstandard forms that can omit a subject relative pronoun, like &#8220;There was a farmer had a dog&#8221; (observed by Arnold Zwicky among others), or those that can omit a genitive relative pronoun, like &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/webhp?hl=en#q=&quot;that's+the+guy's+name+i&quot;\" target=\"_blank\">That&#8217;s the guy&#8217;s name I<\/a> was trying to remember.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was browsing through the Wikipedia page on relative pronouns and I found this table: Position With explicit relative pronoun With omitted relative pronoun In formal English Subject That?s the man [who ran away]. ? That?s the man [who ran away]. Direct object That?s the man [who I saw yesterday]. That&#8217;s the man [I saw &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/nonstandard-relative-clauses\/\" class=\"excerpt-link\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":4,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-syntax"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11\/revisions\/20"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/grieve-smith.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}