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		<title>Modern towers can respect the street</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=211</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re walking up Broadway in Greenwich Village, you&#8217;ll get to the block between Waverly Place and Eighth Street: Notice how there&#8217;s a continuous row of shops (except for the garage) that respects the &#8220;build to&#8221; line, as do the shops on the following block. Above the shops is a setback, and then the 31-story [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re walking up Broadway in Greenwich Village, you&#8217;ll get to the block between Waverly Place and Eighth Street:</p>
<p><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-03-02-georgetown-plaza.jpg"><img src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-03-02-georgetown-plaza-768x1024.jpg" alt="" title="Georgetown Plaza streetscape" width="384" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-218" /></a></p>
<p>Notice how there&#8217;s a continuous row of shops (except for the garage) that respects the &#8220;build to&#8221; line, as do the shops on the following block.  Above the shops is a setback, and then the 31-story <a href="http://www.rosenycapts.com/For-Sale-Apartments/Georgetown-Plaza.aspx" target="_blank">Georgetown Plaza</a> tower, <a href="http://www.emporis.com/building/georgetownplazaapartments-newyorkcity-ny-usa" target="_blank">built in 1965</a>.</p>
<p>On the same block, right next to where I took the picture above, the shops continue with the venerable &#8220;Cozy Soup &#8216;n&#8217; Burger&#8221; diner, a liquor store and the Delion Deli.  Above them is the 35-story <a href="http://www.alginny.com/index.php?pagename=properties&#038;detailid=33" target="_blank">Hilary Gardens</a> tower, <a href="http://www.emporis.com/building/hilarygardens-newyorkcity-ny-usa" target="_blank">built in 1972</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-02-23hilary.41.jpg"><img src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-02-23hilary.41-768x1024.jpg" alt="" title="Hilary Gardens and Georgetown Plaza" width="384" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-221" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=183">classic Greenwich Village urbanism</a> or <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=214">a quiet residential street</a>, but it&#8217;s easy to walk and provides a stimulating visual environment.  It fits in so well with the surrounding ground-floor retail that I only recently noticed that the buildings were postwar towers.</p>
<p>Contrast this with the <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=192">boring vegetation</a> along Washington Square Village, or the <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=205">pointless lawn</a> of Silver Towers.</p>
<p>If the Greenwich Village Society for Historical Preservation really wanted to &#8220;protect the character of our neighborhood,&#8221; they would ask NYU to build retail out to meet the sidewalks of Third, Bleecker and especially Houston Street.  That&#8217;s what the area needs, not more pointless, inaccessible &#8220;open space,&#8221; and not to be frozen in amber in 1967.</p>

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		<title>A beautiful residential block</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=214</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is West Tenth Street between Sixth and Seventh Avenues: Whenever I walk here I feel calmer and happier, much more so than on Mercer or LaGuardia, even though those streets have &#8220;green space.&#8221; Something about the buildings coming up to the lot lines and the subtle diversity of styles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is West Tenth Street between Sixth and Seventh Avenues:<br />
<a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-02-22-West-Tenth.26.jpg"><img src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-02-22-West-Tenth.26-1024x768.jpg" alt="" title="West Tenth Street" width="512" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-215" /></a><br />
Whenever I walk here I feel calmer and happier, much more so than on Mercer or LaGuardia, even though those streets have &#8220;green space.&#8221;  Something about the buildings coming up to the lot lines and the subtle diversity of styles.</p>

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		<title>The character of Silver Towers</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=205</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The form letters that the Greenwich Village Society for Historical Preservation asks you to send to various officials all contain the same bullshit phrase: &#8220;Please protect the character of our neighborhood&#8230;&#8221; Yes, that&#8217;s right. Some people believe that the character of Greenwich Village is intimately bound up with a curb cut leading to a filthy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.gvshp.org/_gvshp/preservation/nyu/nyu-2031-ltr-b.htm" target="_blank">form letters</a> that the Greenwich Village Society for Historical Preservation asks you to send to various officials all contain the same bullshit phrase: &#8220;Please protect the character of our neighborhood&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-08-Silver-Towers1.48.jpg"><img src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-08-Silver-Towers1.48-1024x768.jpg" alt="" title="Silver Towers south" width="512" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-206" /></a><br />
Yes, that&#8217;s right.  Some people believe that the character of Greenwich Village is intimately bound up with a curb cut leading to a filthy concrete garage entrance, an unadorned cast iron fence keeping the public off of a pointless lawn, and a car-free street that manages to be devoid of pedestrian activity.  Oh, Scott Stringer, save this vulnerable piece of neighborhood character!</p>

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		<title>Another pedestrian-unfriendly NYU backside</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=200</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s the back of the NYU Stern School of Business, facing West Third Street: It has a decent sidewalk, but if you&#8217;re walking east, on your right you have parked cars and on your left you have this fence. Wrought-iron is better than chain link, but it&#8217;s still not very pleasant, and if you look [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the back of the NYU Stern School of Business, facing West Third Street:<br />
<a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-Stern-back-door.06.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-201" title="NYU Stern back side" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-Stern-back-door.06-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="512" /></a><br />
It has a decent sidewalk, but if you&#8217;re walking east, on your right you have parked cars and on your left you have this fence.  Wrought-iron is better than chain link, but it&#8217;s still not very pleasant, and if you look through the fence all you see are ventilation ducts and other building support equipment.  It&#8217;s not even like the back of Bobst Library, where you can at least look at people and books.</p>

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		<title>Greenwich Village&#8217;s narrow streets</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=195</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month, Cap&#8217;n Transit had a post about the Really Narrow Streets of Manhattan. Here is a narrow street in Greenwich Village, not too far from NYU. I think we can safely say that Minetta Lane, about thirty feet wide, is not living up to its potential as a Really Narrow Street. In this case, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month, Cap&#8217;n Transit had a post about <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-york-citys-really-narrow-streets.html" target="_blank">the Really Narrow Streets of Manhattan</a>.  Here is a narrow street in Greenwich Village, not too far from NYU.<br />
<a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-08-Minetta-Lane.50.jpg"><img src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-08-Minetta-Lane.50-768x1024.jpg" alt="" title="Minetta Lane" width="512" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-197" /></a><br />
I think we can safely say that Minetta Lane, about thirty feet wide, is not living up to its potential as a Really Narrow Street.  In this case, there are three possible reasons that come to mind.  First, the city is imposing a division of street and sidewalk that keeps the sidewalk too narrow for any real commerce to take place (see also parts of Paris), and bolstering this division by allowing the same 30mph speeds as anywhere else in the city, but allowing the division to be erased by the well-connected drivers of these vans.  Second, the lots are large and have at most one retail establishment each.</p>
<p>There may be a noise issue here: I know that noise complaints are relatively common in the Village, but I don&#8217;t know how much residents may have complained specifically about the Minetta Lane Theater, Bellavitae or the back door of Cafe Wha?.</p>
<p>It turns out that there is quite a backstory, discussed by <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=mBk3AAAAIAAJ&#038;dq=inauthor%3A%22Stephen%20Crane%22%20minetta&#038;pg=PA154#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false" target="_blank">Stephen Crane</a> and <a href="http://mediahistoryny.wordpress.com/minetta-lane/" target="_blank">a number of posts</a> on the Media History of New York blog.  Will Minetta Lane ever transcend this history to become more than a quiet backwater where people just pass through and become a place once again?</p>

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		<title>What&#8217;s wrong with this picture?</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=192</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel kind of guilty complaining about this. Look, you&#8217;ve got a decent width sidewalk, the street isn&#8217;t oppressively wide, and you&#8217;ve got greenery! Shrubs! Plane trees! And two supermarkets within a few blocks! I would have loved something like it in Albuquerque, or in Greenville. I would even prefer it to the development around [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel kind of guilty complaining about this.  Look, you&#8217;ve got a decent width sidewalk, the street isn&#8217;t oppressively wide, and you&#8217;ve got greenery!  Shrubs!  Plane trees!  And two supermarkets within a few blocks!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-Third-Street.48.jpg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-193" title="Third Street" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-Third-Street.48-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="512" /></a></p>
<p>I would have loved something like it in Albuquerque, or in Greenville.  I would even prefer it to the development around Saint John&#8217;s.  But this is not New Mexico, or North Carolina, or even Queens.  It&#8217;s Manhattan.</p>

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		<title>NYU&#8217;s back door problem</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=186</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[New York University has bought a lot of old buildings in the Washington Square area, and built a bunch of new ones.  This is a great example of adaptive reuse and infill development, better than building satellite campuses.  It&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t tried the suburban campus thing before: Bronx Community College occupies their old [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York University has bought a lot of old buildings in the Washington Square area, and built a bunch of new ones.  This is a great example of adaptive reuse and infill development, better than building satellite campuses.  It&#8217;s not like they haven&#8217;t tried the suburban campus thing before: Bronx Community College occupies their old main campus, and Hofstra University was originally a branch of NYU.</p>
<p><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-NYU-backdoor-problem.49.jpg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-188" title="NYU's back door problem" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-02-01-NYU-backdoor-problem.49-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="512" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Unfortunately, NYU hasn&#8217;t figured out how to integrate itself well at the street level.  The old stores, factories and apartments it replaced had multiple street entrances, but entrances are expensive to guard, so NYU only has one or two per building.  In some buildings there is street-level retail, often aimed at students and faculty, but many more have no entrances or windows.  You can see this in the above photo, looking west on Third Street, away from Washington Square Village.</p>

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		<title>Classic Greenwich Village urbanism</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=183</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To contrast with the anti-urban Washington Square Village, here is Thompson Street, just one block over. The chess shops are the same ones profiled in this classic Planet Money podcast and story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To contrast with the anti-urban <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=170">Washington Square Village</a>, here is Thompson Street, just one block over.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Thompson-Street-2012.29.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-184" title="Thompson Street" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Thompson-Street-2012.29-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="500" /></a>The chess shops are the same ones profiled in this classic Planet Money <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2009/12/planet_money_your_friend_or_fo.html" target="_blank">podcast</a> and <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121304873" target="_blank">story</a>.</p>

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		<title>Biting the hand that feeds me</title>
		<link>http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=170</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read Cap&#8217;n Transit&#8217;s post on &#8220;Bleecker Stroad&#8221; with interest, because I lived in Greenwich Village when I was a kid, and I just got a job working for New York University.  I agree with the Cap&#8217;n that there are serious problems with NYU&#8217;s plans to expand in the area, and there are also serious [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Cap&#8217;n Transit&#8217;s <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2012/01/on-bleecker-stroad.html" target="_blank">post on &#8220;Bleecker Stroad&#8221;</a> with interest, because I lived in Greenwich Village when I was a kid, and I just got a job working for New York University.  I agree with the Cap&#8217;n that there are serious problems with NYU&#8217;s plans to expand in the area, and there are also serious problems with the Greenwich Village Society for Historical Preservation&#8217;s campaign to defend some pretty indefensible buildings.</p>
<p>I am being paid by NYU to do completely unrelated work, and nothing I write here is intended to flatter or influence the University.  In fact, some of it may be critical of NYU.  Probably the less I write the better, though.  I&#8217;ll just post some pictures and let them speak for themselves about the existing development and how it relates to the urban environment.</p>
<p>The first picture shows one of the four entrances to Washington Square Village.  They are all more or less identical.  Two face north and two face south, none of them lining up with anything in particular across the street.  They all have big driveways and small sidewalks.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Washington-Square-Village-1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-178" title="Washington Square Village 1a" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Washington-Square-Village-1-1024x768.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="384" /></a></p>

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		<title>The #7 platforms at Court Square will be closed 24/7 for eleven weeks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grvsmth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s one announcement from Jimmy Van Bramer&#8217;s MTA Town Hall that didn&#8217;t really make it into the news.  In addition to closing the Steinway Tunnel for sixteen weekends this year and not running a bus through the Midtown Tunnel, the MTA will close the Court Square station from January 21 through April 6 &#8211; 24 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one announcement from Jimmy Van Bramer&#8217;s MTA Town Hall that didn&#8217;t really make it into the news.  In addition to <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=147">closing the Steinway Tunnel</a> for sixteen weekends this year and <a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/?p=157">not running a bus</a> through the Midtown Tunnel, the MTA will close the Court Square station from January 21 through April 6 &#8211; 24 hours a day, seven days a week.  The E, G and M trains will stop in the subways, but when the #7 is running to Times Square it will cruise right by Court Square without stopping.</p>
<p>At the town hall, Peter Cafiero, Chief of Operations Planning for the authority, said that workers would replace almost every part of the station, including the platforms and windscreens.  It&#8217;s kind of hard to board a train with no platform there, and unlike the Metro-North stations where they&#8217;ve replaced platforms recently, there&#8217;s nowhere else to build a new platform.  This makes sense, but as with the weekend closing of the Steinway Tunnel, the alternatives are bad.</p>
<p>On weekdays while the Court Square platforms are closed, the MTA will offer no additional service.  Passengers who want to take the #7 are advised to take the E or M trains.  That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">People who used to transfer from the G to the #7 will have to walk to the E or M instead, or else go the other way and transfer to the already crowded L train at Metropolitan.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/courtsq1d.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-165 aligncenter" title="Proposed Court Square transfer" src="http://grieve-smith.com/ftn/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/courtsq1d.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="400" /></a></p>
<p>Since they&#8217;re going to shut down the station completely, I wish they could build another staircase at the north end of the platform so that we can transfer directly from the #7 to the E and M trains.  The existing transfer at 45th Road takes you to the G train, but transferring to the E or M involves walking another block underground.  At 44th Drive north of the 53rd Street tunnel there&#8217;s just a parking lot now.  It would be relatively cheap to build a staircase (and even an elevator, to be ADA accessible) connecting the el to the subway.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t do it now, they should at least require anyone who builds on that parcel to put in another transfer.</p>

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